For the Record: It Was a Good Goal
April 27th, 2009, 12:29 pm
Here’s Randy Carlyle’s post-game comments on Marleau’s OT goal:
The action that took place, the reason the puck went into the net was their player pushed our goalie’s pad. The puck was loose behind him, and their player pushed the goalie’s pad. As he pushed the goalie’s pad, the back of his foot, the back of his skate knocked the puck in the net. I think there needs to be some clarification because they are not allowed to push the goaltender and the puck into the net to cause a good goal.
The league didn’t elaborate, saying it was a good goal. So I did the research, and let me take a crack at why this was allowed to stand. Here’s the relevant line from the NHL Rulebook, Rule 79.5(ix), stating a goal is disallowed, “When a goalkeeper has been pushed into the net together with the puck after making a save”.
Here’s the video. Ok, if I were a lawyer trying to defend the Sharks goal according to the this rule, I would state the following.
- The goalkeeper was not pushed into the net. His pad was pushed, but that’s not specifically prohibited.
- Hiller wasn’t “together with the puck”. The letter (and spirit) of this rule, in my view, is designed to prevent a goal to be scored when the keeper has control of the puck. Hiller did not have control of the puck at any time during the play, nor was it attached to or tied up in his equipment.
- For those arguing that banging away at Hiller constitutes goaltender interference, I might even argue against that. They weren’t preventing Hiller from reaching back and grabbing the puck for the split-second it was there. And even if it were interference, that judgment is made on the ice, and is not reviewable by video replay.
So Randy, there’s your clarification.
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Agreed about it being a good goal – I think Carlyle may have been trying to protect his goalie from having to answer about a soft OT goal. Don’t want doubt creeping into his head.
On another thought, do you guys know of any site that has a graphical shot tracker? I’m curious if the volume of shots the Sharks had in game 5 came from a noticeably different area than the volume they had for games 1 and 2. I wonder if the Ducks D is getting worn out clearing the rebounds from the point shots.
um… Was this all you had to blog about… Someone said there might be a game tonight? anyone else heard that…?
Actually, I was also planning on blogging about the passing of Bea Arthur…
grier blogged about keys to game 6 in the last post.
Jeremy~ Yes there is but I can’t find the link in my list. Then again that could of been game center on yahoo sports for that one game which I don’t think yahoo has anymore.
I found it on nhl.com. Go to scores, click back to Saturday and click under Sharks where it says Gamecenter. Scoll down and its there. Now that I look at it, it looks like it goes back to Yesterday and tonight. Ugh I hate that they don’t keep that stuff for more than 48 hours.
Just wanted to add:
Situation Room Blog Sunday, 04.26.2009 / 1:05 AM / 2009 Playoffs Conference Quarterfinals By NHL.com Staff Video Review: Anaheim at San Jose – 6:02 of overtime
04.26.2009 / 01:05 AM ET
Play was reviewed to determine if the puck crossed the goal line into the Anaheim net in a legal fashion… The review determined that the puck crossed the goal line in a legal fashion.
So even the war room in Toronto states it was a legal goal.
Dear Ducks,
Die in a fire.
Love Joe Thorton
Awsome way to start the game.
Love the start! Maybe Joe won’t be invisible anymore, or atleast one can hope.