DOH 280 – No Mo’ Captain Joe
August 21st, 2014, 9:25 pm
The Sharks are going into training camp with no captain and no assistants, and Raffi Torres could be out for the year (again). All sunshine and rainbows in Sharks land!
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There’s zero change the lack of communication between JT and TMac is an an elaborate plan to motivate JT to leave town. It’s evidence of how broken this whole team and organization is. I cast my vote for the Sharks Have Lost Their Minds Party. I became a party member with the signing of John Scott.
The Torres news is so frustrating. But I also thought, (sigh) of course.
I respectfully disagree that this season will inevitably be interesting. I’m not interested in watching this team as constructed, even as a soap opera. Honestly, it might be best if the Sharks finish at the bottom of the standings, leading to an overdue rebuild and a high draft pick next year. I want a team whose core is capable of winning a cup, not capable of perennial mediocrity (never so bad they miss the playoffs, but never good enough to go deep in the playoffs.) Even if building up that core takes several years, I’m patient.
*zero chance …. sorry for the typo.
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It all sounds so well considered when Larry Robinson puts it like that… Remember when he was appointed, there was a strong feeling that he was going to step in when TMac faltered – pity he wasn’t the one that made the “misconstured” phone call. His new role for the new season with less travel seems to set in stone the fact that he doesn’t want the job. Shame seeing as he seems to be the only one able to take a rational view this off-season.
I’ll never understand why Joe and Marleau get all of the blame. Our defense is abysmal as far as playoff teams go, and getting worse. Our goalie has fallen apart in nearly every post season since 2005… but yeah, It’s Joe, we need to get rid of him.
I don’t think anyone is blaming them. All the arguments I’ve seen here, from myself included haven’t made the claim they’re either to blame or the reason they lose.
My point has always been it’s simply about moving forward. And I like the way Greg Wyshynski put it on the MvsW podcast. Keeping Joe and Patty around for either a “rebuild” or “culture change” would be like firing a head coach and keeping him on as an assistant and still hanging around in the locker room.
Disagree with the sentiment if you want, I think it’s clear you do disagree… but I think your perception of the argument that supports trading those players is wrong.
Exactly.
Saw this first on HF Boards… But perhaps a ray of sunshine.
Sharks invited Tyson Baillie to training camp. This kid went undrafted in 2014 for some reason, but at the start of the year was in the projected top 30 players. I can’t find much why he wasn’t drafted, but DW may have just picked up a solid prospect for nothing.
http://www.coppernblue.com/2013/8/17/4625160/2014-nhl-draft-rankings-consensus-top-30
Copper and blue had him at #28 to start the year.
And THN was pretty high on this kid too… http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/nhl-prospect-hot-list-baillie-battles-haters/
Isn’t this the old hockey motivation technique in action here ? Kick them in the ass and tell them there job is on the line. This is something that goes back years in this sport and what is happening to Joe and Patrick could very well be the hockey version of tough love.
I might agree if it wasn’t in line with the strategy that DW has been touting since 2012 of going younger and faster.
2012 DW parted ways with Clowe and Murray.
Now he got rid of Havlat, Boyle and Stuart.
Wilson has been slowly cutting ties with this teams veteran core and going to youth and speed ever since. To me, trying to trade Jumbo and Patty is just the next, albeit biggest step.
If DW had singled out ONLY those two, and kept other older veterans I might agree.
(I do realize Hannan is still here but I think it’s obvious he’s the 7th D they’re keeping cause he fits and his cap is low.)
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